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| Posted on 2008-11-03 13:18:04 |
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Perhaps I don't know all that much about the US but it seems to me there are (at least) two big jobs waiting for the next president:
1. Financial and economic crisis
2. "War on terror"
There's not going to be a whole lot the next president can do about the collapse in financial confidence - it's a huge messy pile but a president who is more confident about economics will help. Economics is not McCain's strong point and his laissez-faire principles are not what is going to fix things. Issue 1 to Obama.
The ongoing US military campaigns are a big drain on the country and are not very effective. The next president is going to have to accept that military might alone will not tame the world. McCain still believes in the US superpower but the last 8 years have shown the limits of the New American Century. Adding an internationalist multilateral approach will be better for the US and most of the world. Issue 2 to Obama.
I can see how all the culture war issues (abortion, guns, whatever) have a big influence, but honestly, how significant are these issues if you're going to be out of a job, out of a house and the body bags keep coming back from abroad?
That's my two cents from across the ocean. I'm just hoping I wake up on Wednesday morning and find out the US has elected the president the rest of the world want to see. Obama will probably disappoint us but it'll be better than having a McCain who will continue the bulk of the Bush policies. Bush who? Indeed. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-03 21:13:00 |
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| laaran |
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The atmosphere in France.
- Obama, Obama, I support Obama
- So you also wish a black president ?
- Yes ! Yes ! Yes ! In America.. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-04 03:53:50 |
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lol Laaran!
karf - i see your point :). :
the war (even if Obama wins) will still continue somehow. and i do think McCain has more expertise in that field. but it's gonna be another Vietnam in my opinion. ppl keep saying "let's get us out of there" but NEVER mention a plan as to how to carry it out or fix the situation. why? politics. and no one seems to know diddly about getting us out of that one...
the economy - get rid of everybody in Congress and the House - a full clean up! lol i wish. unfortunately, i don't like the plan for either candidate on this one - neither has experience on this one (i think). and the fact that SOMEBODY will get screwed one way or another - neither candidate should deny that.
unfortunately it was Congress & The House who got us in this whole mess - complicated things in Iraq regardless of the plans and sat on their hands when it came to coming up with a solution to the problem they started (as far as the economy) - things won't work when a bunch of overpaid pricks don't get along >(. maybe it's time we all ran for office, imagine: once sworn in we sit on our ass, have a few discussions about nothing we aren't gonna fix, call it a day, go out for an early lunch and win a lot of money/get great benefits for it. sounds great don't it?! that's probably why they all run ;-).
anyways, NONE of those pricks have been affected like the rest of us, so why should they hurry or change anything when there's a pending election and they can just blame everything on the previous administration?! seriously, it doesn't matter who our next president is, these ppl will make or ruin it for him because they can >(. even sadder, too many ignorant ppl will re-elect those morons in office. Nancy Pelosi has her days numbered...
these are my final ramblings before the big day. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-04 16:24:23 |
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b-bum, yep, it's going to be your tax dollars pretty much all your life who are going to pick up the bill of, first, the military spending since 2001, and second, the big bail-outs to shore up the banks.
For military spending, I couldn't really tell you if Congress is the problem but it's certainly the executive that pushed for it. Iraq is Bush's Vietnam (did he ever read any history books?) and the next president is pretty much screwed whatever they do. McCain has experience of what? Of believing military solutions work? That idea is bankrupt. I won't guarantee Obama will do much better (Kennedy didn't do too well in foreign affairs either) but a new multilateral approach cannot be worse. You cannot blame Congress for complicating plans for Iraq when there were none, nada, nothing planning for post-liberation/invasion.
I reckon Congress lost a lot of credibility when it impeached Clinton for sex crimes. It showed it was more interested in a culture war than dealing with legislation and policy. And no, the two sides will never get on, that how two-party politics works. Perhaps reform the constitution to encourage other parties. Who represents the libertarians, the greens, the socialists, the fundamendalists...?
Just make sure you vote... |
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| Posted on 2008-11-04 23:10:09 |
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i just think McCain has a little more experience in foreign affairs than Obama, who i am beginning to be more and more convinced that he is poster boy for socialists. like i said b4, this election is based on the lesser of the two. you vote for crap either way you vote; it's why Bac isn't voting ;-).
Clinton impeached on sex crimes was a laugh - i actually watched his trial with my 8th grade history class. we'd do work and then watch the trial. we all bet he was gonna get off, and he did. the reason for his impeachment would have been more serious IF they focused on the fact that he lied under oath. but enough on that, Nixon was pardoned and Clinton was to in a way.
but i agree, we do need to have more than just 2 parties. *sighs* but that will never happen in my life time because to try and add or ammend the bill of rights - there's ONLY 27 and getting them on there and changed in the 200+ years we have as a nation, gives you a glimpse of how difficult of a process it is. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-04 23:30:54 |
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b-bum, trust me, Obama is no socialist, he's barely a social democrat. For foreign affairs, isn't Biden the most experienced by far?
Anyway, who's Bac voting for? What other candidates are running? I've only heard of Ralph Nader and he got no votes in Littleville Ditch (or whatever that we-vote-first place is called). Isn't it feasible for independents to get elected to the House at least? |
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| Posted on 2008-11-06 00:09:13 |
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A final thought for the original title of this topic. Can you tell if this 2000 article really was satire? It was so prophetic it's scary:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/28784 |
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| Posted on 2008-11-12 18:03:28 |
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| Realphilip747 |
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Biden has only bad and failed experience. He is a dolt. Obama knew that no one would wish him harm with such a bumbling moron.
JOBS is a 3 letter word he said during a campaign stop. hahahaha |
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| Posted on 2008-11-12 18:45:11 |
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So Biden is just life insurance for Obama - don't kill Obama or you'll get Biden. Fair enough. Bush Sr had Dan Quayle and McCain was lining up Palin... |
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| Posted on 2008-11-12 23:55:31 |
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| Realphilip747 |
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Palin was great, the only reason McCain even had support from the base of the party is because we liked her so much. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-13 09:51:32 |
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| laaran |
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the only reason McCain even had support from the base of the party
It is the only one ?
Oh, these elections were really a piece of clever movie.
Are you included in the "base of the party" ? |
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| Posted on 2008-11-13 16:15:27 |
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| Palin was great, the only reason McCain even had support from the base of the party is because we liked her so much. |
""I'm the mayor, I can do whatever I want until the courts tell me I can't.'" --Sarah Palin, as quoted by former City Council Member Nick Carney, after he raised objections about the $50,000 she spent renovating the mayor's office without approval of the city council" |
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| Posted on 2008-11-13 17:56:26 |
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| Realphilip747 |
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oh no now i don't like her.
First off does he have it on video or audio tape?
We are supposed to take it as gospel that what he said was true? |
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| Posted on 2008-11-13 20:08:46 |
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oh no now i don't like her.
First off does he have it on video or audio tape?
We are supposed to take it as gospel that what he said was true? |
life is so much better when you live in an imaginary world itn it? You can just choose what's real and what's not. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-13 21:20:19 |
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| Realphilip747 |
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right back at you |
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| Posted on 2008-11-13 22:17:19 |
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| laaran |
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Why right back ?
And not left back ?
You are racist against left-handed people. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-17 22:11:49 |
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does it stick like glue too? |
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| Posted on 2008-11-18 17:36:34 |
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| LORDHUMONGOUS |
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Palin was probably McCain's downfall. He made a mistake in choosing her. And it cost him. She became more of a media darling than Obama. She overshadowed McCain. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-20 21:19:50 |
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Palin was McCain's humiliation - I still feel sorry for the guy. It's like he sold out and lost what he was really like.
One message from this election: the base of the Republican party is no longer enough to win a majority. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-21 20:31:31 |
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| LORDHUMONGOUS |
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She took alot of his steam away. Media wise, it seemed as if she was running for president. At least in my opinion. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-21 20:39:56 |
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| LORDHUMONGOUS |
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Going off topic here for a sec. So I was buying another Cardigans tshirt from the merchandise section when I ran into this little gem http://www.bluecollardistro.co...store=0.
I totally forgot about good old Foley. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-21 21:31:30 |
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| Palin was probably McCain's downfall. He made a mistake in choosing her. And it cost him. She became more of a media darling than Obama. She overshadowed McCain. |
he didn't choose her actually, the higher ups in his party did, he REALLY wanted Joe Lieberman (i think - i can't remember the guy). what hurt him with her was that the media had a lot to pick on her for - the New York Times said stuff that later proved to be false. i.e. that she thought Africa was a country and not a continent. (she fluked at times - but what candidate for anything hasn't? even Obama and Biden screwed up on stuff they said or did). but what hurt him most was the thought that McCain @ 82 was going to die in office (according to everyone), and that was the fear - that he would die and that she would sit in as a replacement.
however, he (McCain) was glad for one thing - she brought enthusiasm for the party (and publicity - good or bad). things were pretty dead/dull until she stepped in. i recall that after the DNC was thru a week later there were rumors about the RNC being a bummer because of the bad weather. but as soon as "a woman from Alaska" was mentioned as the nominee for VP candidate, she stole ALL of the steam from the previous week. she was the headline on all newspapers, media-tv and sparked interest in the GOP. it all went south but either way, don't be surprised if you see her again in 2012 - there are rumors going around that she might be selected again to be running for something.
all i'm looking for right now is for our governor to be recalled and Nancy Pelosi to be replaced. this would help things a lot. |
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| Posted on 2008-11-22 16:40:48 |
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| LORDHUMONGOUS |
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I don't think it brought any enthusiasm to the party. The enthusiasm was mostly aimed at her, regardless of her party. |
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