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| Posted on 2006-07-27 17:15:09 |
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What do y'all think? I'm a little disappointed. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-27 17:49:21 |
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| swampsong |
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I like Cornell's voice. I like Audioslave.
But I can't picture him doing a bond song. Let's hope he makes it work. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-27 17:54:22 |
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| LORDHUMONGOUS |
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Not a big Cornell fan myself. Nor am I a Bond fan. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-27 20:27:21 |
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| Small-Talker |
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Bond songs are supposed to be cool tracks sung by equally cool female vocalists. That stupid Madonna cow fucked things up for everybody - with all her yoga crap.
Oh well ... there's always Tomorrow Never Dies. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-27 23:15:55 |
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| StreetCarpet |
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| Oh well ... there's always Tomorrow Never Dies. |
Ugh. It had catch music but her voice did not suit that song at all.
The unused Tomorrow Never Dies Bond song by K.D Lang(retitled 'Surrender') however, is quite the classy bond song. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-27 23:27:18 |
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| LORDHUMONGOUS |
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"For Your Eyes Only" by Sheena Easton, best Bond related song. IMO |
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| Posted on 2006-07-28 03:08:35 |
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| Small-Talker |
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| Oh well ... there's always Tomorrow Never Dies. |
Ugh. It had catch music but her voice did not suit that song at all.
The unused Tomorrow Never Dies Bond song by K.D Lang(retitled 'Surrender') however, is quite the classy bond song. |
Bullshit. Sheryl Crow's voice on the peak is the best part of the whole song. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-28 05:08:58 |
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| StreetCarpet |
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| Oh well ... there's always Tomorrow Never Dies. |
Ugh. It had catch music but her voice did not suit that song at all.
The unused Tomorrow Never Dies Bond song by K.D Lang(retitled 'Surrender') however, is quite the classy bond song. |
Bullshit. Sheryl Crow's voice on the peak is the best part of the whole song. |
Nah. Her voice was a bit too whiney. Especially when it gets to the final "until the daa-aaaaaay..." line in the chorus. While K.D Langs song was smooth and sultry and all things Bond-like.
Still, Sheryl Crows song had plenty of violins(I am a sucker for the violins!!) in it so I still enjoyed it. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-28 12:40:32 |
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[quote=Small-Talker]Bond songs are supposed to be cool tracks sung by equally cool female vocalists. That stupid Madonna cow fucked things up for everybody - with all her yoga crap. quote]
I agree Smalls...
Yoga and kaballa crap! Ooo... I can only drink certain water blessed by virgins at the river of Shout Your F*cking Pie Hole!!
Ooo I'm a Catholic... Ooo... now I'm whatever Jewish sect... Oooo... what's cool next??...
Is there a hint of sarcasm?
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| Posted on 2006-07-28 12:41:30 |
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Oh yeah... I think Chris' voice is pretty damn cool!!
Rawk!! |
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| Posted on 2006-07-28 21:20:15 |
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| Small-Talker |
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| Oh well ... there's always Tomorrow Never Dies. |
Ugh. It had catch music but her voice did not suit that song at all.
The unused Tomorrow Never Dies Bond song by K.D Lang(retitled 'Surrender') however, is quite the classy bond song. |
Bullshit. Sheryl Crow's voice on the peak is the best part of the whole song. |
Nah. Her voice was a bit too whiney. Especially when it gets to the final "until the daa-aaaaaay..." line in the chorus. While K.D Langs song was smooth and sultry and all things Bond-like.
Still, Sheryl Crows song had plenty of violins(I am a sucker for the violins!!) in it so I still enjoyed it. |
Since when has Bond been sultry? Even Lulu had a go at being a diva back in the early '70s. The Bond people have oft picked people with big voices. There were parts of the songs were people needed to sing quietly, but they've always had their big moment (Shirley Bassey, Tom Jones, Nancy Sinatra, Gladys Knight, Tina Turner, etc.). Sheryl easily kept the pace up.
And I don't know what you're talking about. "Whiney"? Pfft. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 01:11:22 |
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| StreetCarpet |
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| Oh well ... there's always Tomorrow Never Dies. |
Ugh. It had catch music but her voice did not suit that song at all.
The unused Tomorrow Never Dies Bond song by K.D Lang(retitled 'Surrender') however, is quite the classy bond song. |
Bullshit. Sheryl Crow's voice on the peak is the best part of the whole song. |
Nah. Her voice was a bit too whiney. Especially when it gets to the final "until the daa-aaaaaay..." line in the chorus. While K.D Langs song was smooth and sultry and all things Bond-like.
Still, Sheryl Crows song had plenty of violins(I am a sucker for the violins!!) in it so I still enjoyed it. |
Since when has Bond been sultry? Even Lulu had a go at being a diva back in the early '70s. The Bond people have oft picked people with big voices. There were parts of the songs were people needed to sing quietly, but they've always had their big moment (Shirley Bassey, Tom Jones, Nancy Sinatra, Gladys Knight, Tina Turner, etc.). Sheryl easily kept the pace up.
And I don't know what you're talking about. "Whiney"? Pfft. |
Sultry...refering to the vocals.
Don't get me wrong, Ms. Crow can produce a catchy little diddy if/when she needs to but her vocals aren't exactly her strongest asset and it shows in the song. Sure, she was only hired to do the song at the last minute because MGM wanted a bigger name than K.D Lang.
Oh, and comparing her vocal abilities to the likes of Shirley Bassey, Tom Jones, Nancy Sinatra, Gladys Knight and Tina Turner is just plain wrong. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 02:22:10 |
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I don't really care if MGM only wanted Sheryl because they wanted a bigger name. When doing a James Bond theme - the artist is usually limited to singing over a track which was most probably written well before filming even began. MGM obviously had enough faith in Sheryl to not only let her re-write the whole of David Arnold's track, but to also allow her to dig deep into the production. As far as James Bond themes go, Tomorrow Never Dies remains the best one since Carly Simon's Nobody Does It Better. And Sheryl herself made it what it is. You can disagree with me all you want about Sheryl's voice - but don't even attempt to try and minimize what she did with the track simply because you're a K.D. Lang fan who's bitter that Sheryl got the gig instead.
I suppose it would have been better if Aimee Mann had sung it, huh? I'm on to you mister. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 03:24:40 |
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Sigh.....Its 2 a.m so lets keep this quick, shall we?
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Yes. Sometimes the songs are written before a performer is even chosen.
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MGM had enough faith in Sheryls popularity to let her do the title song.
Bigger name = more press. Madonna, anyone?
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Personally, I think GoldenEye is the best of the more recent bond songs and me? A bitter K.D Lang fan? Thats rich. Hell, I like Sheryls attempt, I just think she bit off more than she could chew when doing the vocals and K.D's version is a stronger bond song.
Hahaha. Bitter K.D lang fan. So funny. I'm aware of two, maybe three songs of hers.
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Aimee Mann, aye?????
I'm not sure what you're on to but it sure as fuck ain't me, pally-o. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 03:54:35 |
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If you're trying to lump Sheryl Crow and Madonna into the same boat, well that's just your stupidity speaking. Die Another Day was a one-off case - it was the result of Madonna fucking around with that Mirweis bloke - and could very easily be extracted from the entire Bond project and put together with that American Life one.
First you're stating that Sheryl Crow had nothing to do with the song, and tried to con that off as an insult. I proclaimed otherwise, and now you're trying to imply that all of Sheryl's input was crap. You're arguments are all over the place, and I suggest the theory that you know nothing about anything.
And the rest of your arguments are entirely subjective. You're obviously bitter about the whole K.D. Lang-Sheryl Crow thing, for whatever reason. I assumed you were a fan - because it's a rather uptight person who can be so insulting towards one artist when they're a fan of neither. You may not pick up this point without me actually pointing it out for you, but I tried to give you more credit than that when saying you were a fan. Now that you've stated you're not a fan - well now I just think you've got some underlying problem with Sheryl Crow in general - a point which makes your entire argument even more subjective. Subjectivity and Objectivity - study them and realise their importance within the Forum context.
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Intriguing, little grass-hopper. Please go on...
And all of the Americanisms you've been using lately greatly annoy the crap out of me. Jesus ... spend a few months in America and that's enough for all that crap to rub off on you? Well you're just a susceptible little grass-hopper, aren't you? |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 08:01:50 |
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^ America? Gee, if the movie's producers had to appease the American-market then why not get Kelly(american idol) Clarkson for the song?
(I bet they asked her first!)
Seriously, I think it's a man's turn. Hopefully Chris Cornell'll give the movie some balls considering the latest version: short blond Bond. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 12:37:29 |
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Hey,yes,what do you think about that BLOND Bond guy??
What,he's "short"? |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 15:31:22 |
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If you're trying to lump Sheryl Crow and Madonna into the same boat, well that's just your stupidity speaking. Die Another Day was a one-off case - it was the result of Madonna fucking around with that Mirweis bloke - and could very easily be extracted from the entire Bond project and put together with that American Life one.
First you're stating that Sheryl Crow had nothing to do with the song, and tried to con that off as an insult. I proclaimed otherwise, and now you're trying to imply that all of Sheryl's input was crap. You're arguments are all over the place, and I suggest the theory that you know nothing about anything.
And the rest of your arguments are entirely subjective. You're obviously bitter about the whole K.D. Lang-Sheryl Crow thing, for whatever reason. I assumed you were a fan - because it's a rather uptight person who can be so insulting towards one artist when they're a fan of neither. You may not pick up this point without me actually pointing it out for you, but I tried to give you more credit than that when saying you were a fan. Now that you've stated you're not a fan - well now I just think you've got some underlying problem with Sheryl Crow in general - a point which makes your entire argument even more subjective. Subjectivity and Objectivity - study them and realise their importance within the Forum context.
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| A bitter K.D Lang fan? Thats rich. |
Intriguing, little grass-hopper. Please go on...
And all of the Americanisms you've been using lately greatly annoy the crap out of me. Jesus ... spend a few months in America and that's enough for all that crap to rub off on you? Well you're just a susceptible little grass-hopper, aren't you? |
Wow! Way to use a lot of bogus thoughts/assumptions and pass them off as fact.
You continue to both amaze and baffle me, young [insert insect of your choice *here* (I suggest 'Tick')].
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| A bitter K.D Lang fan? Thats rich. |
Intriguing, little grass-hopper. Please go on...
Funny how you call me a bitter K.D Lang fan when:
1. I am not a big fan of hers and
2. The minute I make a comment about Someone you like thats even slightly negative, you react as if its some kind of malicious comment aimed specifically at you or as if this person is some really close friend of yours that you must defend to the death.
Well, young *....*, I can say it wasnt malicious nor aimed specifically at you(everyone else, feel free to chip in your opinions). I was just giving my two cents on the song.
Which leads me to believe that she is some really close friend of yours. In that case, I did not know and......will you ask her to sign my 'Tomorrow never dies' soundtrack cover?
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| And all of the Americanisms you've been using lately greatly annoy the crap out of me. Jesus ... spend a few months in America and that's enough for all that crap to rub off on you? Well you're just a susceptible little grass-hopper, aren't you? |
I'm mucho flattered that you take the time to read my posts and see what i'm up to and I'm like totally sorry if my "Americanisms" are rubbing you the wrong way, dude. Definitely don't like, take them as a personal attack on your character, or you know, whatever.
Crackhead. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 15:35:17 |
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Hey,yes,what do you think about that BLOND Bond guy??
What,he's "short"? |
I'm not sure how tall he is but at first, I was a little apprehensive about the choice but having seen the recent trailer, I warming up to him. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 18:46:40 |
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| Wow! Way to use a lot of bogus thoughts/assumptions and pass them off as fact. |
They're my thoughts/assumptions. You see, my main problem is, I've never really come across anyone who has been able to thoroughly disprove the things I say/type. So I have been led to believe that 100% of the things I say/type are in fact correct. If you wanna try and change that, then please continue. Otherwise - don't try and change who I am, Hmm-Kay?
And you've become far too complimental towards yourself. There is no shortage of posts by your friend going on about your little road trip. There has never been any active attempt by myself to figure this stuff out. It's just there! (everyone else, feel free to chip in your opinions). Bicycle Avatar Thread, anyone?
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Yes, if someone does insult an artist that I like : I will defend the artist. As a fan I feel it is my duty. I'm not ashamed of that, am I supposed to be? What's the point in liking someone if you aren't free to defend them from time to time. Scenario : You're walking down a street with a mate, and someone hears you talking about the Cardigans. This person turns around and says "Oh God! The Cardigans! They made that Lovefool song! I hate those idiots!" What would your reply be? I feel buying a whole load of someones CDs isn't enough to class you as a "fan". You need to become emotionally attached to the group, and with any emotional attachment immediately comes the ability to defend that artist/group. And let's face it - if the fans don't defend the artist, who else is gonna do it? NME? You insult an artist I like - you're insuting me. End of. I'll never be ashamed of that.
thhHAH! Muppet. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 21:13:08 |
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Yes they are your assumptions. Your problem is that, as always, you think they are the truth. But sure, i'll role with that. I AM a disgruntled K.D Lang fan who has nothing better to do than start a trail of hate against Sheryl Crow for stealing the bond song that rightfully belonged to her[even though I do infact, LIKE the song] and one of my terms of vengeance is to have Aimee Mann perform the song instead. YES! It makes so much sense! You truly are on to me.
And I have no intention in changing who you are. Infact, i'm not sure where the hell that accusation came from. All I wanted to do is give my opinion on that particular bond song but apparently, if I dare have an opinion different to yours, you unleash the Small-Talker Bitching ParadeTM upon me as if i've flung human feces in your face.
And, yes. There are plenty of comments relating to my trip this year. However, using that information to make a comment as unrelated and downright bitchy as the one you made shows quite clearly, a person who's really scraping the intellectual conversation barrel.
By the way. Nobody else seems to have picked up/mentioned my apparent "Americanisms".
As far as your "you insult something I like, you insult me" comment.
Well thats just too bad for you. Everybody is gonna disagree on something. If you can't rise above that and just get over it, its your problem.
If, like your scenario suggested, someone was walking down the street and said "The Cardigans are crap", I wouldn't give a shite. I still enjoy their music and what someone else says isn't gonna change that and I certainly don't need to defend my taste in music to anyone.
And on that note, I'm done with this topic. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-29 21:30:59 |
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There was nothing bitchy about the Americanisms comment. It is fact. Yes, your posts are filled with plenty of "dang" Americanisms. And it's bloody annoying to see an Irish person spend a mere few weeks in America and think that's enough to merit countless uses of "dang fine". Look at that cookie thread (just 1 example). Yours and swampsong's posts have become so similar it's laughable. But you obviously haven't noticed. That shows just how susceptible you are.
And the difference between me and you? I'm no pussy. Rather than walk away from a real-life confrontation (like all the people who only talk big when online), I'd attempt to stand my ground and put the bitch in a proverbial coffin of their own FAECES - Jesus, you even spelt faeces the American way. Coped onto it yet? Yep? Good.
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| And I have no intention in changing who you are. Infact, i'm not sure where the hell that accusation came from. All I wanted to do is give my opinion on that particular bond song but apparently, if I dare have an opinion different to yours, you unleash the Small-Talker Bitching ParadeTM upon me as if i've flung human feces in your face. |
I've decided to incorporate this paragraph into my post - just incase you felt like editing out the Americanisms in your post again. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-30 00:25:12 |
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sounds like so not interesting song. |
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| Posted on 2006-07-30 07:32:31 |
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I don't know if Daniel Craig is that short. I just saw him in Munich and I didn't notice height I guess I was trying to figure out how he was supposed to be Jewish...blue-eyed, blond, Nordic/Germanic looking fellow.He's a pretty good actor, I guess... I must admit I wasn't thrilled about him initially hearing he would be Bond. He is a good actor. I think at the time I was hoping for Clive Owens as Bond.
This is Irish?:
"I'm mucho flattered that you take the time to read my posts and see what i'm up to and I'm like totally sorry if my "Americanisms" are rubbing you the wrong way, dude. Definitely don't like, take them as a personal attack on your character, or you know, whatever."
methinks ST may have a point about SC |
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| Posted on 2006-07-31 10:22:25 |
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Bond songs are supposed to be cool tracks sung by equally cool female vocalists. That stupid Madonna cow fucked things up for everybody - with all her yoga crap.
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That Madonna track was a nice enough track... but it was NOT a Bond-tune. Not in a hundred years was that a Bond-tune. But I don't think it started with her. There were some hideous ones in the 80s.
Tomorrow Never Dies is my fav as well, closely followed by The World is Not Enough. I think Cornell might actually do a good job with it. Is David Arnold still writing and producing the song? |
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