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Posted on 2006-09-04 16:08:49
guosheng
hey,i am here asking for your opinions on the lyrics of "for what its worth"...there is "four letter word"in the lyrics which i think refers to "love"while my friend thinks its "f***".we are not native speakers,so may some of you give us your opinions?With many thanks
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Posted on 2006-09-04 16:11:17
laaran
The word is food. So your friend is right.
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Posted on 2006-09-04 16:17:23
guosheng
oh...but i think if you see between lines...it was telling a gal who even dare say dirty words while dare not say love to the one she really cares.Doesnt it? or i got misunderstanded? thanks anyway for you opinions!
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Posted on 2006-09-04 18:58:55
Bac
"Say the word I'm thinking of.
Have you heard? The word is love..." * ahem * oops... wrong song... :-)

I'm pretty sure the word is "love". The whole song is wrapped around the phrase:
"For what it's worth - I love you."
So you would be correct (in my opinion). Of course, I didn't write the song so I could be wrong, but I'm just considering the context.
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Posted on 2006-09-04 19:35:25
bassman
I can't see the word being 'fuck'. Nina wouldn't use any Anglo saxon in a song. Apart from the word 'shit' in Good Morning Joan.
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Posted on 2006-09-04 20:14:21
daniel_o
I think it's "love" only that it's "dirty-fied" love because of the 4-letter word connotation. Usually "4-letter word" means that it's a curseword so the sentiment for me is that Nina wants to say that love is a dirty word... which it is. ;-) Without it having to be fuck.
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Posted on 2006-09-04 20:52:38
CharlieCharlie
bassman wrote:
I can't see the word being 'fuck'. Nina wouldn't use any Anglo saxon in a song. Apart from the word 'shit' in Good Morning Joan.


"They´re FUCKed up and annoying"

"My oh my, you took pride in my FUCK up"
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Posted on 2006-09-04 21:51:40
Posthuman
"..and goddamn,I don't seem to have learned..
...So I paid and got laid in return.."
Or is this just me,getting it all wrong..? :)
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Posted on 2006-09-05 01:50:07
bassman
CharlieCharlie wrote:
bassman wrote:
I can't see the word being 'fuck'. Nina wouldn't use any Anglo saxon in a song. Apart from the word 'shit' in Good Morning Joan.


"They´re FUCKed up and annoying"

"My oh my, you took pride in my FUCK up"



Absolutely. I do stand corrected. I wasn't thinking straight.
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Posted on 2006-09-05 20:29:12
Quetzal
the four letter word ever symbolise fuck, it's a nice way to use this word when you're a polite american women, with a good good christian education..
that kind of crappy word should not be into the mouth of a young lady.. ever prefer to use "the four letter words" instead of fuck or shit, or some nice other as dick or cock or slut.. anyway,
and use "the three letter word" when you have to said "bip" witch is the most crappy of all.. remember it, if you want to be nice and fair do not use crappy bad awfull words.. ;) it's so baaad..

it's a nice utilisation of these metaphore, or periphrase<-(french)
goes perfectly with the sensitive part of love and how to talk about love in these most funny ways.. :D
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Posted on 2006-09-06 00:39:59
-berlin-
there are several song in pop history named 'love is a four letter word, f.e. by bob dylan, squeeze and all 4 one.
the first one that came to my mind is a song from roy budd, from the get carter soundtrack, released 1971
and the chorus goes somewhat like this:
look inside your dictionary
to tell you what that word could be
but nothing in your dictionary
can describe what this word would mean
love is a four-letter word


plus there's a song by cake that is called
friend is a four-letter word

these examples are both by native english speakers, so it doesn't necessarily have to be fuck

personally i think in the case of for what it's worth the word is love. for me the song is about a relationship basing only on sexual needs and when feelings enter it, everything goes wrong and it cannot be continued. so the fact that one person falls in love with the other one ruins the intimacy the two shared before.
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Posted on 2006-09-06 05:20:12
guosheng
Thanks so much for you guys! i kinda got the idea~ actually i realized we dont have to give an definite word to fit that 4-letter-word,right? its on how you understand the whole lyris...it's just a kind of feeling on the realtionships.Personally i agree with -berlin- and daniel_o...Anyway,everyone has his/her own interpretation of the lyris...that is no standard right or wrong on that...i guess...thanks again for your ideas~ you are all nice the-cardigans-fans!
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Posted on 2006-09-06 06:43:10
NinaPersson
Hi, this is Nina.

My intention when I wrote it was that it would be obvious that the word is "LOVE". But since "four letter word" implies something dirty, I was happy to leave it open to everyone to decide what's dirty. The persona in the song is one who's a bit scared of love, so that would be the scariest word to say. Simple as ABC, no? Love from N
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Posted on 2006-09-06 20:31:33
Orange-Gum
NinaPersson wrote:
Hi, this is Nina.

My intention when I wrote it was that it would be obvious that the word is "LOVE". But since "four letter word" implies something dirty, I was happy to leave it open to everyone to decide what's dirty. The persona in the song is one who's a bit scared of love, so that would be the scariest word to say. Simple as ABC, no? Love from N




Yes I really admire this lyrics, simple simple, original and perfect. I understood the intention since first time I listened this song...but....Hey...Is this a real message from "the real" Ninna Persson? A 4 year old girl? Mum, knock on my head and send me to school!
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Posted on 2006-09-06 21:52:41
Bac
Orange-Gum wrote:
NinaPersson wrote:
Hi, this is Nina.

My intention when I wrote it was that it would be obvious that the word is "LOVE". But since "four letter word" implies something dirty, I was happy to leave it open to everyone to decide what's dirty. The persona in the song is one who's a bit scared of love, so that would be the scariest word to say. Simple as ABC, no? Love from N




Yes I really admire this lyrics, simple simple, original and perfect. I understood the intention since first time I listened this song...but....Hey...Is this a real message from "the real" Ninna Persson? A 4 year old girl? Mum, knock on my head and send me to school!


Yeah, that's her... I think Magnus put down the wrong age on his profile also.
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Posted on 2006-09-06 22:09:15
CharlieCharlie
Didn´t someone stated that they picked the for years as age, because 4 years ago there was the rebirth of the cardigans, when the recordings to Long Gone started?
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Posted on 2006-09-07 03:18:07
guosheng
thanks,i think its Nina answering question on her birthday morning with happy mood,haha...and i do think Long Gone before Daylight is a gorgeous...while i have to confess,i am not much of the Super Extra Gravity:P
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Posted on 2006-09-07 04:11:12
irish_scott
I love it when songwriters tease with our minds.
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Posted on 2006-09-08 21:12:26
Quetzal
yep, it's nice from nina to come here to explain this "difficult" metaphore made with the general means of the text..

no, no, Nina it's not so ABC to understand, but my english well...

but i've ever heard this metaphore for bad situations.. then..

___
and thanks magnus to ask nina about it, the question i've been ask into the "ask the band section" first...

this band is the coolest band of the world, you can touch the stars ;o)

tack sa mycket the cardies
 
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