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Posted on 2008-10-06 21:41:27
laaran
Hesiod
Ἔργα καὶ Ἡμέραι
verse 50

Homer
Ἰλιάς
song 16, verse 231

Yes, I wrote "discovery of fire" as title for the page of my notebook.

Please, miss the girl near me, can you sit just a bit farther. You want to read, ok.
But first, when I write small, it is because I am not sure for these words. You should just read the big words only. I am sure that some greek students can help you more than my small words, you just need the line numbers in fact (but french women hate numbers).
Secondly, I really don't care about this text, I am searching about astronomy, not about cooking. I am searching, so I read several things. If you want to read this one, just ask. If I care, don't worry, I will move farther from you, myself.
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Posted on 2008-10-07 18:41:42
laaran
Roger Billard.
L'astronomie indienne : investigation des textes sanskrits et des données numériques.

Hum.
It is for people with a very strange brain.
They must enjoy some maths, and using computers to analyze ancient astronomy.
They must enjoy the text with the voyel 'a'. Only this voyel. Who created the spelling for the indian words in latin alphabet ? That is horrible.

The analysis itself seems pretty good, and I really don't care for its results. The author removed some data from the indian text, keeping only the data to support his computer analysis.
A book not for me..
And the english books (quoted as references) about indian astronomy all use the "only voyel a" system for indian words. Horrible again.
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Posted on 2008-10-07 18:46:54
laaran
Ah, yes, for "laaran". The first two "a" are not the sound "a".
It is just a notation, for an additionnal sound.

In indian texts in latin alphabet, there is no double "a", never.
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Posted on 2008-10-07 22:27:01
laaran
The life of Hipparchus.
And his books.

The "Commentary on the Phaenomena of Eudoxus and Aratus" was never translated to french.
And if it was translated to german or english, we don't have it in french libraries. We have the greek text, and again, the latin translation..

Oh, everybody probably knows that Hesiod describes India or China. A country with two crops each year.
You see, for me, it is different, I make no money of these secrets, why should I keep them ?
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Posted on 2008-10-07 22:41:47
laaran
Oh, and if someone likes latin or old greek. And is searching for a job for several years.
There are no rights for the greek text, of course.
No rights either for the latin one, which was published 114 years ago.

Of course, the actual capitalist system does not offer a normal reward to the translators. With internet and photocopy, robbing is so easy.
Fix capitalism, and then translate ?
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Posted on 2008-10-08 23:59:58
laaran
A short biography of Karl Wilhem Ludwig Müller
And a short biography of Ambroise Firmin-Didot.

The Fragmenta historicorum graecorum was a great collection.
Yes, that is true.
But.
Is there a connection with the life of Guglielmo Libri Carucci dalla Sommaja ?
Who is famous for robbing books, from libraries in Italy, then in France.
And maybe in other countries.
Probably, there is a connection.
He arrived in France in 1833. And the collection started a few years later.

The libraries were not hiding the books. But not publishing either. Ah, these normal people. They never care to earn money.
When people have a slow mind, capitalists help them. They rob and sell.
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Posted on 2008-10-10 00:06:15
laaran
The life of the family Burnouf (just search on wikipedia).
They were so clever. They managed to translate some lost indian languages into french. Like that. From nearly nothing.

They were also really racists, and anti-jews.

With a name that sounds middle-east. Please consider that I use this word because of my own ignorance, I know that some middle east country would send to jail immediately (or maybe kill) such robbers.
I think they came from a middle east country ; I can't tell which one unfortunately. I need to tell it, because it explains the next sentence.

Middle-east is close to india, and that probably explains their great ability to rediscover ancient indian languages.
Is such an attitude fine ?
When the indian languages are actual ones, yes, that helps for communication. There is nothing hidden, these languages are much used.
When the indian languages are languages of the past, I think that indians should give their opinion.

Another Burnouf arrived a bit earlier, in the 18th century in Germany.
In Prussia.
Missing from wikipedia, strange..
And the last famous one of the family, Émile-Louis Burnouf, living in France, was racist (not only racialist - racialism in the pure form is just saying : "I like my race, I want to keep races separated", and does not judge inferiority or superiority).
And wikipedia connects him to nazi intellectuals (who arrived later of course, time is time).

Conclusion : robbers came, we enjoyed what they brought, we paid little immediately. And later, we paid much, wars and so on. Logical..
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Posted on 2008-10-10 00:37:50
laaran
I know, sorry, I am doing a mistake.
I prefer to leave the previous mail. I am wrong, I am wrong.

There was no Burnouf in Germany.

But we had a Klaproth. One in Germany, then a second one in France.
The second one was also much gifted for oriental languages, and also mysteriously.
He wrote in 1823 Asia polyglotta ou Classification des peuples de l'Asie d'après leurs langues = a classification of the languages of Asia.
How can one person suddenly write that ? It is not like maths, it is not only a theory. A person would need much data..

In Germany, his father did a great job too. Bringing a new classification for chemistry (yes, classification again). And "discovering" some new elements. Not 1 or 2. 4 of them !
1 is uranium. "Discovered" in 1789.

There was radioactive clouds over Europe just before 1789. Those who created the bad crops in France.
Officially, they were due to the volcano Laki of Iceland. But usually volcanoes don't create radioactivity.
So either some people were playing in Berlin. But probably not, because Berlin did not suffer more than France.
Either the Laki really sent radioactive material. Maybe some clever scientists used the Laki as a laboratory, sending radioactive materials inside (trying to create a reaction ?).
Either there was no radioactivity, and historians connect the bad crops and the Laki and the discovery of uranium, and this is just a dream.
I don't know at all. I think it is a great subject for students..
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Posted on 2008-10-10 18:44:39
laaran
A german dictionnary.
How a small detail means a lot.

Hum. And other things, but I try a new life. I try to be honest. So I don't tell about the life of others, even the past lifes.
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Posted on 2008-10-13 22:24:45
laaran
Catalogue de la Bibliothèque de feu Monsieur l'Abbé Bouvart,... composée de plus de 14000 volumes, tant anciens que nouveaux, avec des livres d'estampes, le tout disposé par Doublet, libraire à Chartres, en 3367 articles...

It was printed in 1756.
This is an announcement. A list of book to sell.
They all belonged to the abbot Bouvart.
How can someone have 14000 books (some, of course, are part of a single multi-volume work) ?
In 1756 ?
This man was working in the cathedral of Chartres.

Strange, the book of Chalcidius is not listed in 1889 in the books of the cathedral.
Today, I will check again, in 1840.
But I fear something. Did the text of Chalcidius disappear in 1756 ? Not disappear, of course, was it sold after the death of this abbot ? If yes, why ? The cathedrals remained a "holy" christian place after 1756.
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Posted on 2008-10-13 22:47:56
laaran
The date is very close to, hum, the years of the great discovery.
The great mathematics discovery of Johann Heinrich Lambert.
Who discovered many things (and yes great things, the category of "transcendant" numbers, of the demonstration that pi is irrationnal, and others) from 1755 to his death (according to the french wikipedia).

1756-1755 !!

And this mathematician really did great jobs.
Yet, in France, nobody learns his name.
Was he french ? Not really, he was from Alsace, and during that years, Alsace was part of Switerland.
But he wrote in french, and that is a good argument for us to learn his name. But we don't.

Of course, he was living near Germany. Probably speaking and reading german.
And Berlin maybe remembers (if she is still alive) the only thing that I sent to her in a private message. A document about history. An order from the french kings : "take the books". This order was written for the troops fighting in Germany, during the 30 years war, around 1730.

Conclusion : we took many books from Germany.
The knowledge of the etrucans, later transformed into the power of the catholic church, later robbed by the french armies during the 30 years old war.
This is called : "civilization".
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Posted on 2008-10-25 15:33:59
laaran
Béatrice Bakhouche - her article about Calcidius (who himself is commenting the Τίμαιος of Πλάτων) called
"Éternité et temps dans le Commentaire au Timée de Calcidius"

Hum.
So first, this person has rather good sources. Or good friends. Or good teachers. Or is clever.
This article is very nice, like her article about light/vision.

Secondly, I disagree with her conclusion. Not even because she tries to insert the word "christian" (or "catholic", hum, anyway, I am not sure that I really know the difference or that she really knows the difference).
And in fact, that sounds true. But not at all like she says it. I mean, it seems that the word "God" brings a so small difference.
But two pages earlier, she describes something. And it seems that this something influenced the school of Chartres around 1200. So maybe it is new. Ah, yes, new only in 1200 around Chartres. And much earlier in Spain. I can't explain this. But I think that fits better than her paragraph, the one where she speaks about that Jesus was "engendré, non pas créé". Because I think there is no relation with her good text, and if there is a relation, it is not new.
I know it is much more marketing (for honest christians) to insert something about "engendré, non pas créé". But honest christians don't even study the architecture of french cathedrals, it seems they like feelings or love or a feeling of security more than knowledge. Doing marketing for people who don't like the product, that sounds a bit strange.
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Posted on 2008-10-25 19:19:35
laaran
In fact, I am a bit confused.
I think there is a problem between "new in written texts" and "new in Western Europe".
When Porphyre moves from Phenicia, then to Greece, then to Rome, he certainly brings "new knowledge" in Western Europe. But maybe his texts bring nothing new, and maybe we can find all the same ideas in Numenius (who was working in Syria).

Porphyre is considered as not-christian.
Is Calcidius the christian "copy" of the traveler Porphyre ?
Which proof do we have or don't we have of it ?
Calcidius was studied by christian people, and using the word "God". Is that enough ? He could be, if we try to keep it simple, jewish..
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Posted on 2008-10-26 13:04:46
laaran
An article, about the shape of earth

I don't know why I waste my time reading old texts of the middle age.
This article tells things simply.

I nearly don't know. Who can believe the "zum eigenen Ruhm" ?
Some did that for Ruhm = glory. Saying : oh, look, we are discovering everything, before, they were so stupid.
And some were not working for Ruhm. Some were surely not working for Ruhm. Today, many scientists don't work for glory. Some like knowledge, some like money, some like beauty, some like weapons. There are many characters, and many motivations.
So some created this lie for glory. Ok.
And all others ? What was strong enough to make them accept such a lie ?

Why was the book of Nicole Oresme, about the shape of earth, never published again after 1530 ? This book is in french, it makes it rare and interesting, including for those who study french language. The content is probably common, but it proves the knowledge of the middle age.
What happened after 1530 ?
In the war against protestants, was the religion the only problem ?
There was surely another discussion. After 1492, and maybe before. How transfer rich things from the new continent to Europe, and how to transfer people from Europe to this new continent.

For example, it seems that the population of South America got much much important suddenly after 1945. Did all the soldiers really die during the two world wars ? Was it a transfer of population ?

And there is a last question. People probably helped the europeans. People from Africa ? People from Indonesia ? Arabic people ? Probably some of each group. Was it the first goal of the colonization ? Say "we are stronger now, and we will not share, and we will use violence to protect our new world" ?
As the french government refuses to open the archives of the military marine, and as this marine had an obvious role in these questions, it is difficult to learn more from inside France..
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Posted on 2008-10-26 13:16:38
laaran
Hum, and the africans probably knew things too.
It is difficult to imagine that they knew nothing about Brazil.
But the africans play the game "we are stupid", and translate everything into their own language that very few europeans understand. And those who understand these languages usually have no scientific formation, and don't understand some important scientific words.
The indian plays the same game "we are stupid", and don't explain to english people that an indian text with only the voyel "a" sounds stupid. Please, at least do for some arabic texts, and write no voyel.

But the indians are less aggressive in France than the black people here. I don't feel racist when I feel that some black people organize a form of racism against the white population in France. With the help of some french people, like Sarkozy, who hides old texts.

I hope that Obama will be different. I hope that he will not follow the most racist black leaders, and that he will ask for the truth about the past.
We need to know what happened when the black people were transfered as slave in the "new world". Some black leaders helped, and were selling black people to the boats of white people. We need information about these leaders. Those who did horrible things must pay, the white ones of course, and also the african ones.
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Posted on 2008-10-26 14:01:01
laaran
Or watching.
A map of 1472

I wonder. Where is this long branch of a sea between Europe and Asia ?
Is it the explanation of the cold war ? We were trying to sink USSR in order to create a long sea between Europe or Asia ?
Or.. I remove the circular border with the word "mare oceanum". And I place the picture above my head.
And I see... the world. The "mare magnum .iue" (I am bad for this kind of letters) is the sea between Europe and Asia ?
Oh, yes, America is missing, that is true. But it fits with a spheric earth.
Is the circular border a late addition ? Who created the first map of this kind ? Was the circular border present on this first map ?
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Posted on 2008-10-26 14:58:34
laaran
As I learn, and as I am bored, I share.
So this map is not from Isidor of Sevilla.

This is the text of Isidor of Sevilla :
Orbis a rotunditate circuli dictus, quia sicut rota est [...] Undique enim Oceanus circumfluens eius in circulo ambit fines. Divisus est autem trifarie: e quibus una pars Asia, altera Europa, tertia Africa nuncupatur.
There is no "mare magnum .iue" in this text.

Something changed between 600 (life of Isidor of Sevilla) and 1472 (date of the map).
They created USSR ?
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Posted on 2008-10-28 12:16:06
doffen.
Martin
The Master and Margarita.

anyone read it?
Author
Posted on 2008-10-28 14:31:21
Posthuman
Bjarnason_56 wrote:
The Master and Margarita.

anyone read it?


Yes,Bulgakov,right?In high school,it was in our obligatory reading list,but I read it much earlier than that.You liked it?
Marvelous.

I just read The Private Life Of Mona Lisa,Pierre la Mure.
I made a list,of about 20 books that I want to read..starting tomorrow
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Posted on 2008-10-28 15:26:37
cross_ide
Posthuman wrote:
Bjarnason_56 wrote:
The Master and Margarita.

anyone read it?


Yes,Bulgakov,right?In high school,it was in our obligatory reading list,but I read it much earlier than that.You liked it?
Marvelous.


Wow, you went to cool high school. For some reason I picked up M and M about ten years ago, and really liked the ten or so pages I read.
The main thing though is that the girl I've been dating for a year LOVES this book.
Recomennded!! (i actually should read it, duh)
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Posted on 2008-10-29 13:06:27
laaran
Ἀριστοτέλης - first analytics

The second analytics are a bit connected to the text of Bakhouche.
So I start with the beginning, with the first analytics.
(it is also part of the Organon, which has two more volumes before ; but this collection was made later, 400 years later, by Andronicus of Rhodes).

This book is the mess.
It is not bad, but it is really the mess.

In my edition, the publisher even removed the 3 figures of the book. It is funny, because Aristotle keeps telling "on the first figure" or "on the second one" or "on the third one".
Combinatorial maths could probably help for the presentation (at least for the first half of the book), but the official subject is "logic", so there are no combinatorial maths.
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Posted on 2008-10-31 01:48:14
laaran
The positions of city.
London and Köln are nearly aligned, for longitude.
A difference of 7° (nearly). In fact 7°03' if we consider the center of London (and not Greenwich which is a subourb).
7 is such a magic number.

But.
We can add some facts :
- the difference of latitude is big, around 35'. Strange, latitude is easier to measure than longitude..
- some cities, a bit north-eastward of Köln were saxons (like London in that time)
- one of them has a difference of longitude of 2/100 of a circle (around 7.2°). The saxons, as the latin for example, were using the base 10. And 10*10 = 100. Why use 360 and not 100 to divide a circle ?

These cities were not destroyed by the asshole Charlemagne (I have no reason actually to use another qualification for this man, whatever the french school tells about him), because it is the tactic of assholes. Threaten but don't destroy everything, threat is the best weapon. Every dictator knows this rule. Putin, and also the members of the US air force who didn't destroy the planes which crashed in the World Trade Center.

Which old-saxon city do I propose ? Gelsenkirchen, which was saxon around 700. And, if we search for a difference of longitude of 2/100 of a circle, the error is 1'. For latitude and longitude.

This accuracy of 1' seems surprising for the longitude.
It is better than the best (actually officially existing) books, which comes from Samarkand or Iran, around the 10th century.

How did they do ? I have no idea.
Carrying a clock is possible.
But why mark 1/50 of a circle, and not stop on the way to mark 1/100 of the circle ? Or is there a mark (maybe a "simple" mark ; not everybody is christian and not everybody builds huge churches everywhere) between London and Gelsenkirchen ? This mark should be on the coast, and on the coast, the people are actually the small-small-small...-children of pro-latin and anti-saxon people (many all those called flemish in fact). Is there a mark or not ? Was it hidden/destroyed/forgotten between 700 and 2008 ?
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Posted on 2008-10-31 10:13:41
laaran
I checked quickly with googleearth.
The city of Domburg has elements of an antic past.
This city is close to the middle of London-Gelsenkirchen.
(According to the text of wikipedia) this city had more importance in the middle age than now.
And..
Many anglo-saxon coins were found there.
And a sanctuary was found on the beach. With latin text. And the name of a not-roman Goddess (german or celtic or unknown culture of NW Europe ?) called Nehalennia (who has also a monument further NE on the coast, and one around Köln..).

It is exactly in the middle of the line Gelsenkirchen-London in terms of geographical middle. That means that the latitude is higher (just a bit ) than the one of London. This element is rather a negative argument, but it is the only one.

If they spent so much time (maybe from -200 to +600) to measure perfectly 7.2° degrees of longitude, I understand why they never crossed the Atlantic Ocean.
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Posted on 2008-10-31 10:54:01
laaran
And 1/100 of circle west of London, we find the DAVIES BROTHERS WASTE LTD.
It is really a proof.
The unit of the saxon was 1/100 of a circle.

We also find a place called Kenfig, but I will certainly not read the Maid of Sker by R.D. Blackmore.
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Posted on 2008-11-04 20:06:50
laaran
This afternoon, I was reading about the life of Kamāl al-Dīn al-Fārisī.
He lived around 1300, in Iran.
I read a text that was presenting one of his book. About rainbow.
This book is, according to me, not only about the physic of reflexion or refraction. There is interferometry inside it.

I always wondered "how could muslim have so small Koran ?" (the smallest one is written on a timestamp).
And usually, i was thinking : "hum, only interferometry can offer this possibility".

Today, I think that this idea is completely right.
So miniaturization is not new. It exists probably since 1300 or 1400.
The funny point is that this technic is used to create the chips and memories of computers. "Americans" discovered this in the 60s. Or was it a "present" from Iran ? A present to create a common alliance against USSR ?
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