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Posted on 2008-11-04 20:41:39
laaran
Hum.
In fact, I don't know if Iran gave it to USA.
For some reasons, that fits, and for some others, that does not.

Also, in the book, it is only the beginning of interferometry. It is not an accurate theory at all.
Also, interferometry itself was discovered (or publications were made about it) around 1800 by Thomas Young in UK.
So of course, americans knew about that in 1960.
During the 1960s, it is different, americans discover how interferometry can spread very thin layers or "lines" of material on electronical devices.
Young discovers the interferometry of light. But he does not use it to create some kind of component. He uses it to analyze light, only.

I just think. If iranians discovered interferometry of light around 1300, maybe they kept searching about it ?
And, maybe, they discovered how to spread thin lines with interferometry ?
For example, in order to write miniaturized characters on a timestamp ?
They never published about this method, but they display the result. This timestamp is "easily" visible (I don't remember which museum or which city, but it is in a museum open to public visitors).
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Posted on 2008-11-05 19:01:44
laaran
Hum. Again some pages of the Tabula logicae of Jacopo Zabarella.
(in a french translation fortunately)

It is a competition of crazyness with the so called first analytics of Ἀριστοτέλης.

Zabarella is winning, of course. But that is easy, he knows the book of Aristotle, so he just has to write more crazy.
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Posted on 2008-11-08 01:02:17
laaran
Someone in my family is reading a book (rather stupid like all books of these kinds) about the people who can detect water with a small rod of wood shaped as a 'Y'.

Today, I saw something funny.
This tool was maybe used in the middle age.
Not to detect water, but in order to detect metals.

Oh, I don't know about the tool.
I just know that the book (that a person of my family is reading) tells that these people have the ability to detect changes in the magnetic field.
They also tell that a hidden source of water changes the magnetical field, which is rather not proven.
But a hidden source of iron can change it.
So. Can really some people detect small changes in magnetical field ?
If the answer is yes, then the story is simple. This ability was used in the middle-age to detect metal. And during Renaissance, people (who always have great ideas at birth moment) tried to use it to detect underground sources of water.
If the answer is no, then people of the middle-age were losing their time.
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Posted on 2008-11-08 13:03:23
laaran
Oh, and don't just think "ah, iron, it can be magnetized".
In the middle age (at least in the book that I saw, not the one of the person of my family), they used this tool to search for silver.
So either silver is usually near magnetized iron. From what I read yesterday, I would say that it is not true (if we consider that near is really near, if near is less than 4 kilometers away, yes, ok, it is near, but less than 5 meters, no).
Either it is something different. Magnetical but more complicated.
The magnetical itself, hum, I see some possibilities. But really no possibility for the tool itself, so I can't comment more.
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Posted on 2008-11-08 23:33:45
laaran
Not read, but watch.
The position of the biggest silver mines in the middle-age.
(Europe had little gold mines in that time, except maybe Spain, so silver mines were the most precious mines)

Kutná Hora, the biggest european silver mine, near Prague.
That explains why this city became so important.
For example, Tycho Brahe went there to finish his studies.

Poitou, the biggest area of silver mines, in France (but smaller than Kutná Hora). The most important mine was near a city called Melle.
The Loire is just 100 km northward. All french kings built their castles there in the middle-age, and at the beginning of Renaissance. Far from their own capital, but near the silver mines..
And the leader of the socialist party in France is deputy of this area. Silver is a socialist metal, everybody knows it.
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Posted on 2008-11-13 03:13:07
bugsy
"neoliberalism in finland"
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Posted on 2008-11-13 22:18:47
laaran
Cool.
Soon you can visit the library in Paris.
As nothing is new, and life is only "résurgence", what you read probably did exist in the past.
And as we robbed books from so many countries, we probably have it here in Paris.
And please bring some snow.
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Posted on 2008-11-15 15:03:27
laaran
The news.
The meeting of the G20.
Netherlands and Spain are invited.
Cool. They can speak about global warming, the raising seas that will soon threaten Netherlands, and the dry summers that already threatens Spain.
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Posted on 2008-11-19 18:52:26
laaran
The life of Fulbert de Chartres.
Fulbert de Chartres, précurseur de l'Europe médiévale, a recent book.

He took a rich present from the king of Denmark, and sent a very polite letter "thank you". And that is all. Only a very polite letter.
So we kept the very rich present in France, and unfortunately, we don't know the content of the very rich present.
The reputation of danish people, around the year +1000, was low. Really low. Maybe that explains the attitude of Fulbert.

Also there was a funny habit in Chartres.
From 800 to 1200, they burnt the city regularly. Every 30 or 40 years. And after 1200, they stopped burning.
Was it really accidents ?
The city was surrounded with a defensive wall. This area was not big. Maybe burning was just a method of cleaning the area, in order to build new homes every 30 years ? This is a pity for historians, but it was maybe normal and positive. Just a normal and simple method to destroy old homes and create new homes regularly in a limited area ? And it is probably a good way to clean the city (from rats and waste which can bring plague or other sicknesses).
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Posted on 2008-11-26 15:48:16
Valeria13
Valeria Korneeva
I`m reading Ray Bradbury. I read his books for the first time when I was 11 or 12 years old. But some days ago I decided to refresh memories. And now I spend evenings with “Dandelion wine”, “The Martian Chronicles”, “Fahrenheit 451” etc. I like his books. I like his words, escpecially in “Dandelion wine”. For example, one of my favourite parts is:
“Somewhere, a book said once, all the talk ever talked, all the songs ever sung, still lived, had vibrated way out in space and if you could travel to Far Centauri you could hear George Washington talking in his sleep or Caesar surprised at the knife in his back. So much for sounds. What about light then? All things, once seen, they didn’t just die, that couldn’t be. It must be then that somewhere, searching the world, perhaps in the dripping multiboxed honeycombs where light was an amber sap stored by pollen-fired bees, or in the thirty thousand lenses of the noon dragonfly’s gemmed skull you might find all the colors and sights of the world in any one year. Or pour one single drop of this dandelion wine beneath a microscope and perhaps the entire world of July Fourth would firework out in Vesuvius showers.
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Posted on 2008-11-27 11:47:27
cross_ide
I have a Bradbury book on my nightstand beside the bed, "Death is a Lonely Business" Read one chapter so far.
My job is boring, though I get an hour of lunch sit down time to check the computer. Sometimes I download short stories for my mp3 player. The job is fairly repetitive, so I can usually concentrate on listening.
Also on my nightstand, "Dragon Tales" Chinese fantasy? - gift from my girlfriend when she went to Olympics this past summer.
Poems by Anna Akhmotova is in the bathroom as well as bassist Phil Lesh memoir "My Life with the Grateful Dead."
Also on nightstand, printout of "The Rise of Neo-Liberalism (and some more words about the deterioration of science in academia)".
etc.
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Posted on 2008-11-27 18:05:10
Valeria13
Valeria Korneeva
cross_ide wrote:
I have a Bradbury book on my nightstand beside the bed, "Death is a Lonely Business" Read one chapter so far.
Poems by Anna Akhmotova is in the bathroom as well as bassist Phil Lesh memoir "My Life with the Grateful Dead."
Also on nightstand, printout of "The Rise of Neo-Liberalism (and some more words about the deterioration of science in academia)".
etc.

Yes, Bradbury is a brilliant writer. Do you really like Akhmatova? Her poems are so heavy and gloomy, especially “Grey-eyed king”:
«Hail! Hail to thee, o, immovable pain!
The young grey-eyed king had been yesterday slain.

This autumnal evening was stuffy and red.
My husband, returning, had quietly said,

"Had left for his hunting; they carried him home;
They'd found him under the old oak's dome.

I pity the queen. He, so young, past away!...
During one night her black hair turned to grey."

He found his pipe on a warm fire-place,
And quietly left for his usual race.

Now my daughter will wake up and rise --
Mother will look in her dear grey eyes...

And poplars by windows rustle as sing,
"Never again will you see your young king..."
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Posted on 2008-11-28 14:27:32
cross_ide
Valeria, that is a gloomy poem, I guess, though I (me) have blu-ish eyes - sometimes I read subjectively, selfishly - but still worth reading? yes? maybe? I don't know. Sometimes words just "gloss" before me. She isn't a "favorite" poet that I like. I found a dvd on her life a few months ago in a shop; I've yet to watch it. She looks good in photos and in other art portraits, in my opinion.

It is loosely linked to how I might read the passages of Laraan. When he writes some interesting history pertaining to iron, personally, and perhaps because I've read a bit of history myself, but perhaps even more, because this is primarily a music fan message board, I eventually start thinking (or humming) "Paper and Iron" by XTC off their, I believe, "finest" album, when they were still performing live. ?????

Thanks Laraan! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xZflmr6ShXI
again ????
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Posted on 2008-11-28 14:58:18
cross_ide
sorry, on an XTC kick

"but please don't listen to me, i've already been poisoned by this industry" -andy partridge

"Funk Pop a Roll" off of MUMMER!!! a more interesting video, imo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v...=related
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Posted on 2008-11-28 15:07:28
Valeria13
Valeria Korneeva
cross_ide wrote:
Valeria, that is a gloomy poem, I guess, though I (me) have blu-ish eyes - sometimes I read subjectively, selfishly - but still worth reading? yes? maybe? I don't know. Sometimes words just "gloss" before me. She isn't a "favorite" poet that I like. I found a dvd on her life a few months ago in a shop; I've yet to watch it. She looks good in photos and in other art portraits, in my opinion.

As for me, I don`t like Akhmatova at all. Of course, her life was too hard…but I don`t like her creation, I don`t feel her poems with my soul, I just read them because educated people should know some things (for example, should know some poets and writers, some painters and etc.)
For instance, I like M.Bulgakov and don`t like L. Tolstoy.
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Posted on 2008-11-29 19:48:44
laaran
poplars by windows rustle
Weeping willows rustle (in the song of Sylver)

Trees create poetree !
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Posted on 2008-12-04 12:29:43
laaran
Two books of Jean-Philippe Priotti.

They tell about the pays basque, at the end of the middle-age.
The pays basque had a strong role in the 15th and 16th century as producer of long-range boats.

We are annoyed about this history.
Before the books of Priotti, there was a "mysterious" silence about this subject.
The basques themselves never tried to publish about it. Getting money is of course a much interesting activity, and the ressources of pays basque are interesting. And the people there had no time for publishing or for history, when production of boats and trade was so high.
In France also, we never hear about it. Too proud to say "ah, look, this old retarded people in the mountain, with their old retarded language, they helped a lot for the discovery and development of America".
I think they helped a lot. And I think they also got much money from it, and never used this money to develop their own language. I think there is no future now for the basque language. Or... They show us more documents in basque language (there are surely written documents of the famous 15th and 16th centuries), and then historians will get interested, and the basque language will get a new life. But this is probably a dream.
Sometimes, history creates the future.

The pays basque was a neutral zone between the "ennemies" France and Spain. This was its role also in the past.
Now this role is over, and the ressources are interesting many french and spanish people, who will find way to enter the pays basque.
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Posted on 2008-12-05 00:45:14
laaran
That reminds me of someone.
Some years, I worked with a group of people, and one woman among them was from pays basque.
Her clothes were half transparent and we could see her underwears (which were fortunately not transparent at all).
Is it basque fashion for women, I don't really know.
I quarelled with her before I could ask this question :(
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Posted on 2008-12-05 09:27:24
gimsocoo
Just finished Veronika Decides to Die, starting Tess of the d'Urbervilles. Woot.
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Posted on 2008-12-05 18:18:59
laaran
The most famous article of Lynn Townsend White.
"The Historical Roots of Our Ecologic Crisis", written in 1967.

I think he convinces me about one point.
The modern technological attitude (which is not in my eyes similar to the one of the middle age, on this point, his arguments didn't convince me) is typically christian.
The modern science, and the joining of science and technology, I don't know where they come from.
Some scientists have a religious motivation, and it is probably true for Newton, but false or not the main component for most of them (including for Copernic).
And the joining, I have really no idea.

Lynn Townsend White thinks that these 3 elements, modern technology, modern science, and the joining, come from christianism.
So he draws a conclusion from it. I can understand his point of view.
I agree with him only for 1 element, and I don't know for the 2 other ones, and I have no conclusion. I know that some forces contribute to the actual situation, but there is not one word, or one idea, or one civilization or one culture that summarizes these different forces.
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Posted on 2008-12-06 00:27:07
laaran
I could finish the two last pages, and read completely his conclusion.
White thinks that he proves (he uses words of the category of deduction) that "since the roots of our trouble are so largely religious, the remedy must also be essentially religious".
To me, his result is weaker. Something like, "since the roots of our trouble are partly religious, the remedy must also be partly religious".
That sounds common to me. And religion is not my field, so I can't appreciate (or criticize) the contribution of White for the evolution of religion.

Also, he describes a story with Francis of Assisi and a wolf.
This last one speaks to a wolf (which was attacking herds). And "the wolf repented".
I wonder if the wolf could survived many years after this pretty action.
Which possibilities ?
1 - We find a way to turn wolfes into vegetarian animals (with the help of God, or something like that). Then wolfes will spread (because we would stop chasing them). In which country is that, why do we see that nowhere ? It was certainly not that.
2 - It worked only for this wolf, because it was a supernatural wolf (thanks to God). Who can create a future with exceptionnal saint animals or humans ?
3 - There is really a way of communicating with animals. And we could feed "tamed" wolfes. That sounds just like the story of humans with dogs, or dogs with humans. It arrived a long time ago, 8000 or 10000 years ago, or earlier.
4 - The wolf died a few days later, starving but happy, ready for paradise. Just a few days later..

A wolf is a wild animal. A tamed wolf is not a wolf, but nearly a dog. If we don't accept the wilderness of wolfes, we will keep killing them.
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Posted on 2008-12-09 14:36:00
laaran
A link
On October 30, 1961, Soviet physicists detonated a 50-megaton bomb, which remains unsurpassed in terms of its yield.

That was the day "smile and say hello to the not-humans life of the universe".
Ok, now, they know that we exist.
Years of nuclear bombs + a change in the atmosphere of earth (which is even more obvious with global warming) + this superb powerful bomb.
It is cool. And after 1961, russians created the pretty naked russian girls, who smile all the day long. They smile to the not-human lifes of the universe.
These not-human lifes watch and appreciate the smiles. But they give nothing to help the pretty smiling russian naked girls.
And it is a bit late to be sorry. Yet, before they die, we could ask to all the genius of the old generation : why, why did you try all these weapons in the atmosphere, and not underground ? Was life so boring before Star Wars ?
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Posted on 2008-12-09 15:08:03
laaran
Another link
High altitude nuclear explosions.
Very clever too. Especially the biggest ones (this time, the great idea was american).
Will we place naked american women in spaceships around the earth, naked smiling american women for the not-human forms of life ?

In fact, there is a problem.
Maybe they really don't have sex as we do, and maybe they really don't care.
Or maybe these are female-ruled form of lifes ?
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Posted on 2008-12-09 15:15:32
laaran
The third good idea is destroying asteroids with nuclear bombs.
As the third "best team" for this subject is french, the idea is probably french.
And in fact, that is a bit typical.
A bit less for war, a bit more for science.
And a bit more completely mad.
Of course, everybody likes the creativity of french people.
So they just keep on.
Everybody was also appreciating the courage of the russians, and the technology of the americans. And they said big hellos to the form of lifes far away.
Will we stick some french naked men or women, when we destroy the first asteroid with nuclear weapons ? Where will we stick these naked people ? On the asteroids ? On the rocket ?
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Posted on 2008-12-09 22:39:54
laaran
Newton at the mint, from McCutcheon Craig

I was going to leave the library, and it is like this book called me.

So this book tells about the life of Newton. After university.
He was responsible of a mint.
He also accused a person of being a counterfeiter, and this person was sent to death. It seems that Newton did everything to charge this person, and to get the death sentence.
The person, according to the book (and it seems really honest) was really a thief.
But why death sentence ? Was there some secret to hide ?

I think that Posthuman knows more about it. I think because the keyboard talks to me, like the book called me.
And in fact, central Europe people were hiding knowledge of the greeks. For centuries. I want to learn what they were hiding.
I know that one God is nasty, and that there will be violence far from Earth. I am not worried, I have friends there. The question is now to judge here the ones who work for the nasty God.
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