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| Posted on 2006-09-16 01:13:21 |
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so, considering that SEG is a great album... I think that it should be more than 2 singles.... so.... what happened??
if SEG has only 2 singles, so this album has let me down and I have to believe that is a s**t!!
but I know is not true!!! so, why a great album /being objective, really) with so many songs that sound like great singles has not another single!¡!!!¡!¡!¡?!??
is this album a really s**t?
I'm desapointed with SEG, I thought it could get further..... |
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| Posted on 2006-09-16 02:58:07 |
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Universal ... $$$$$$$ maybe ? ....
Anyway a 3rd single without promotion ... that sucks...
So lets joy of SEG.. and all the rest of ´d tracks like fans that we are!...
Cardigans Rules! |
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| Posted on 2006-09-16 08:21:13 |
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Record companies are releasing less and less singles as it is. Even from big artists. How many singles are released from an album is not a measure of how good the album is... hahahahaha. Many of my absolute favourite artists don't release singles at all.
Singles are primarily released to promote the album, not to sell by themselves. Singles usually don't rack in all the money (international super-hits excluded). That's why the record companies sometimes release singles even if they think the song isn't going to sell that many of the single format... because it helps push the album up a few notches. But sometimes they think that the album already has run its course and don't think its sales can be pushed up to a level that is higher than the cost of releasing a single... so they don't release a single. Only two or three singles from an album is not at all rare these days. Remember those times when releasing 5-6-7 singles from an album was common? Björk for instance, (I love Björk), released 5 singles from her 1997 album Homogenic. The last one was released in 1999 even. Now in 2004 when she released her latest album Medúlla, there were only 2 singles taken from it. It has nothing to do with how good the album is... it's all about economics.
I think that the format is going to disappear eventually. It's a shame but you know, it's development. Now with internet and iTunes and all of that... you can have a hit or promote an album without having to spend the money on releasing singles. It sucks for us... but it's the truth. |
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| Posted on 2006-09-16 11:03:15 |
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| I think that the format is going to disappear eventually. It's a shame but you know, it's development. Now with internet and iTunes and all of that... you can have a hit or promote an album without having to spend the money on releasing singles. It sucks for us... but it's the truth. |
I agree with that. Morrissey said a few days ago, that his single "In The Future When All´s Well" was#6 in the over-the-counter sales in the UK, but because they add the download sales in the UK (crap, huuuge crap) the single entered at #17! The people just don´t buy the physical singles anymore, so there´s no reason for Universal to release more singles from SEG.
In 2003 they released "For What It´s Worth" and "You´re The Storm" in Germany, so before "Don´t Blame Your Daughter" was released I thought, that I´d be the same like in 2003, but they didn´t even release the second single from the album in Germany, although DBYD got airplay in Germany and was played every day on several radiostations! I guess we´ll just have to live with only 2 singles from an album!
I don´t understand why they won´t release Godspell, I mean, DBYD did quite well in Sweden (at least it entered the charts) and INSFWAYYNTBN was a hit! The single reached #3 and was in the charts for 22 weeks (!) in good ol Sverige. Why don´t they just release another fast single like Godspell? |
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| Posted on 2006-09-16 16:48:48 |
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^ Because the album did well. Most people aren't hardcore fans like ourselves. Most people who "casually" like The Cardigans will already have bought the album and aren't really interested in the b-sides that might come with a new single. There's no reason for them to buy the single. Maybe the thing is that SEG has done TOO well? The gain on sales from SEG from a single promotion would be small in comparison to the cost of promoting a single (with video and such)... since most people already have the album. Do I make any sense?
I think Universal Sweden (Stockholm Records) think that the cycle of SEG-promotion is closed. I think they think that the chances of the album sales going up because of another single release are pretty slim. I agree with there's no real reason to release another physical single... from the point of view of the record company. BUT I definitely think that they could promote a song from the album - like Godpsell - more on the radio or on downloads. Or make a longer EP or something with the international bonus tracks and some live tracks! (The Godspell EP... doesn't that sound grand?) When the third single from LGBD - Live and Learn - was released on December 3rd 2003, LGBD had fallen out of the charts. But just a couple of weeks after the single release it shot up to the top 10 again. The single however didn't chart at all! It wasn't because of the single release itself that the album sold more - it was because the song became a radio favourite and the video was played almost every morning on MTV for over two weeks. (I remember seeing it everyday at breakfast on "Morning Glory" before going to school.) So I definitely think that Godspell could give SEG a push upwards! |
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| Posted on 2006-09-19 20:12:22 |
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Björk for instance, (I love Björk), released 5 singles from her 1997 album Homogenic. The last one was released in 1999 even. Now in 2004 when she released her latest album Medúlla, there were only 2 singles taken from it. It has nothing to do with how good the album is... it's all about economics.
Oh, i'm a huge Björk Fan also and remember the days at the moment... :)
But actually there were three singles of Medulla, right?
Oceania, Who Is It, Triumph Of A Heart ....
Oh, but Oceania was a radio single and only released as a promo single
(with the Kelis remix, i think) ... So, you're right (kind of :)
But 5 Homogenic singles?
(I'm counting right now...) Jóga, Hunter, Bachelorette & Alarm Call ...
the 5th ? |
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| Posted on 2006-09-19 20:16:38 |
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Got it!
All is full of love was the 5th!
Walk idiot walk, i know :)
I remember that i was pretty confused after Björk
won the "Breaktrough Video" award at the MTV
VMA's in 2000 ! 'cause Homogenic was released 1997,
weird, kind of... |
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| Posted on 2006-09-19 20:40:06 |
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| The gain on sales from SEG from a single promotion would be small in comparison to the cost of promoting a single (with video and such)... since most people already have the album. Do I make any sense? |
Yes. But I´m sure there are still lots of people who haven´t heard of the Cardigans and/or SEG yet, and I think "Godspell" should become a huge hit, like INSFWAYYNTBN, at least in Sweden, because it´s such a great pop/rock song. Those radio stations that haven´t played "Don´t Blame Your Daughter" because it was too slow could play "Godspell"! And, in my opinion, they don´t have to make a video for the single, they could take a live performance (although it might be too late now to record one) or just don´t make a video at all! What´s the matter? They could just perform the song on Swedish television, that could be enough to make a hit out of the song!
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Well, it is now, isn´t it? The guys and Nina won´t play any concerts in the next few months and will then start to record album no. 7, but they could have released it in july, then there would have been lots of promo (--> Kiruna Festival etc.) and they could´ve played the song on tv. Guess it´s too late now...
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| I think they think that the chances of the album sales going up because of another single release are pretty slim. [...] the third single from LGBD - Live and Learn - was released on December 3rd 2003, LGBD had fallen out of the charts. But just a couple of weeks after the single release it shot up to the top 10 again. The single however didn't chart at all! |
Yup, "Live and Learn" was a very thoughtful release: they released it in december and the single promoted the album during the christmas-period (you know what I mean, they sell more before christmas), so people heard "Live and Learn" and wanted the album for christmas. That would be another possibility for a "Godspell" release! "The new single Godspell, taken from the album Super Extra Gravity!" How cool is that? I´m sure people would buy the album and "Godspell" would push the SEG sales! They also could sell the album for €9,99 instead of €14,99 [in coronas, of course!] for the weeks before christmas! I´m sure SEG would enter the charts again! |
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| Posted on 2006-09-19 23:02:01 |
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"Yes. But I´m sure there are still lots of people who haven´t heard of the Cardigans and/or SEG yet, "
That would have to be outside Sweden then. Here in Sweden I'm pretty confident that everyone that was going to buy the album already bought it. It went gold the first week of sales. The price has been reduced for quite a while now too.
"and the single promoted the album during the christmas-period (you know what I mean, they sell more before christmas"
Actually, LGBD sales peaked again after christmas - the week of january 9th it went up to #8 after having been in the 50s ... so I don't think christmas sales had much to do with it.
I actually think that right now it wouldn't make any sense to release another single... other than pleasing the fans, of course. But record companies kind of don't think that way.
Don't Blame Your Daughter was actually played a lot on the radio here. :) It was on the A-list of rotation for over two weeks... which isn't that much but considering the radio usually plays crap it's a lot! I think the sales of the single suffered because everyone had already bought the album... that's what always happens. |
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