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| Posted on 2006-10-05 23:23:52 |
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I hope this helps her sell more albums. :-)
Apparently a song that Bono said (in Q Magazine) he wishes he'd written is "Almighty Love" by Emm Gryner.
(For those who don't know, Emm toured and backed up the Cardigans during their CWA tour in 2004... and Nina recently sang on her song "Black Winger Bird"... and Nina's husband Nathan is in a band with Emm...)
It is a cool song.. but it's certainly a sweet song and a nice compliment from a very well established artist.
see Emm's october 3rd journal entry.
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| Posted on 2006-10-06 02:18:12 |
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Yeah.. Emm is very good! and the song that Nina sing is very cool!!!
Lets see what happen with Emm in a future! :) |
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| Posted on 2006-10-07 12:36:50 |
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Nowadays if I had a band and people were gonna told me "you know, Bono likes your music" I was gonna change style immediately, and recreate the whole project, musically.
I think the Irish Peace Sunglassed God is unfortunately gone, badly ended, sucked into a world which is as greasy as his hair.
It's a shame, he was ok on stage when he was young and real...
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| Posted on 2006-10-07 16:03:14 |
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^i was thinking something similar to this. maybe bona praising emm is good for her, but there are certainly a lot of people out there who find bono and his taste in music doubtful |
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| Posted on 2006-10-09 01:26:04 |
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I don't know... I agree that musically and lyrically U2 seem passed their prime. I did see a show last year and as a live act they are still magnificent.
Maybe it's unfashionable for him to say and do some of the things he's been doing of late, but I think his musical integrity is still in tact.
I guess McCartney and Dylan aren't as "cool" as they once were either, but I'll bet anyone here would be pleased if their music was given praise by one of these rock icons! |
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| Posted on 2006-10-09 04:08:23 |
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Yeah, but... Mc Cartney and Dylan are MC CARTNEY and DYLAN, Bono is just Bono, and musically this means already a lot, c'mon...
And, moreover, Mc Cartney and Dylan don't act as savers of the world, thruth speakers, rock legends and Jesus secretary, all in one! They are just rock legends, hehe...
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| Posted on 2006-10-09 08:49:04 |
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McCartney being an animal saver, though.. ;-) |
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| Posted on 2006-10-09 12:13:59 |
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Like Morrissey. and like Suburban Kids With Biblical Names say "meat is murder - and pigment!"
Cardigans Forever
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| Posted on 2006-10-09 20:42:26 |
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Yeah, but... Mc Cartney and Dylan are MC CARTNEY and DYLAN, Bono is just Bono, and musically this means already a lot, c'mon...
And, moreover, Mc Cartney and Dylan don't act as savers of the world, thruth speakers, rock legends and Jesus secretary, all in one! They are just rock legends, hehe...
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Ha... yeah, McCartney and Dylan have certainly done their share of social activism over the years at one time or another.
The media is huge now and so Bono gets more heavily scrutinized, but sure neither of those two have reached the degree of activism as Bono has.
Bono has never claimed to be some sort of saver of the world. He does seem to feel obligated to use his influence as much as he can. Lennon was basicly the same way.
While I think Lennon and Bono mean well, I do think they were/are both a bit naive as far as the way they've gone about it (much of the time). And just flat wrong about some of their ideas.
Anyway, all that is pretty inconsequential as far as what makes it a very nice compliment. It's because Bono (whether you agree with his social agenda or not) is at least widely regarded as a prolific songwriter. And even if Bono weren't so critically acclaimed, it's still a big deal to Emm, apparently, since she's been an admirer of U2 for a long time. |
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| Posted on 2006-10-10 00:59:21 |
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it's still a big deal to Emm, apparently, since she's been an admirer of U2 for a long time. |
thats certainly a very nice thing! |
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| Posted on 2006-10-10 01:17:07 |
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Dale your blind love for Emm Gryner has scrambled your brains
and by the way U2 is still great, its quite hard to keep coming up with classic rock Gems like they used t9o churn out at a rapid clip. |
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| Posted on 2006-10-10 04:28:13 |
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Dale your blind love for Emm Gryner has scrambled your brains
and by the way U2 is still great, its quite hard to keep coming up with classic rock Gems like they used t9o churn out at a rapid clip. |
Philip, your blind hatred for Emm Gryner has scrambled your brains. 
Hey, I said I still like U2, but no one is perfect. I even like their new album, but it's just not that great. At least compared to their own previous work, but yeah, compared to most other artists they're still very, very good. |
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| Posted on 2006-10-10 07:14:18 |
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bleah, bleah, bleah, bleah you make me ill grrrrrrr. . . .
Jag tanker du ar idiot ;-) |
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| Posted on 2006-10-10 20:12:24 |
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bleah, bleah, bleah, bleah you make me ill grrrrrrr. . . .
Jag tanker du ar idiot ;-) |
Oh, I see. Now I understand. Hey... did you just call me an idiot? 
BTW, I'll be arriving in NYC around noon next week. Are you still going to be there? |
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| Posted on 2006-10-10 23:17:49 |
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im leaving wednesday at lunchtime :(
so i ser inte din underbra svensk fru och svensk barn! |
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| Posted on 2006-10-10 23:52:28 |
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im leaving wednesday at lunchtime :(
so i ser inte din underbra svensk fru och svensk barn! |
ah, well...
Have fun over there! Catch ya next time... |
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| Posted on 2006-10-15 13:33:46 |
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While I think Lennon and Bono mean well, I do think they were/are both a bit naive as far as the way they've gone about it (much of the time). And just flat wrong about some of their ideas.
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Isn't that kind of missing the point though? Didn't Lennon actually write in Imagine "you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one" ? I thought that was his precise point...that while he knew that he couldn't actually change the world because the people in the world made it impossible, if more people dropped their cynicism and abandoned their greed and "I'm alright Jack" attitudes and protested that the world didn't have to be this way, maybe it would make more of a difference.
Of course, it didn't happen and probably never will. If even huge politicians and activists can't make a difference anymore, I'm sure Bono is aware he isn't the saviour of the world either, but good for him for at least trying, and for trying to use his influence more positively. |
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| Posted on 2006-10-16 04:46:15 |
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While I think Lennon and Bono mean well, I do think they were/are both a bit naive as far as the way they've gone about it (much of the time). And just flat wrong about some of their ideas.
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Isn't that kind of missing the point though? Didn't Lennon actually write in Imagine "you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one" ? I thought that was his precise point...that while he knew that he couldn't actually change the world because the people in the world made it impossible, if more people dropped their cynicism and abandoned their greed and "I'm alright Jack" attitudes and protested that the world didn't have to be this way, maybe it would make more of a difference.
Of course, it didn't happen and probably never will. If even huge politicians and activists can't make a difference anymore, I'm sure Bono is aware he isn't the saviour of the world either, but good for him for at least trying, and for trying to use his influence more positively. |
I'm not sure I understand the comment. Are you saying they intend to be looked upon as naive?
By saying, "you may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one", that sounds like a call for people to push for this imagined view of Lennon's (e.g. "I hope some day you join us...etc.") as you suggest. And, yeah, not everything he says even in that song are bad things. And it's fine for him to push for that if he wants, but his ideas in general that you could solve world problems with total pacifiscm and "bed-ins", etc.
The problem with "Imagine" is (and understanding that this is my opinion, but I'm not the only one -haha) that some of the things he imagines aren't things I care to imagine (e.g. "Imagine there's no heaven" or "and no religion too" or "living for today") or they're simply not reality and no amount of change in the human heart or mind is going to fix everything. For example:
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
Why would "no possesions" mean "no need for ... hunger"? Doesn't he realize that hunger is not solely a man-made problem? Or that a lack of "greed or hunger" means there will be a "brotherhood of man". People still have values and beliefs and other types of institutions that cause division.
Would it be nice if there were no greed or hunger? Sure. But trying to get everyone to follow you into some fantasy land isn't going to change reality. If there's no heaven and there's no hell and we should all just live for today as Lennon suggests, then it devalues our existence altogether. Does tomorrow even matter then?
Perhaps I'm reading too much into Lennon's work (or not enough). I guess the way I see it is that I think Lennon's vision of this utopia on Earth isn't bad in itself, but the means he suggests in getting there are where I think he's at fault.
Bono, I think, has a more realistic approach overall (though a bit misguided). He seems to accept reality more, but I think he still shares a lot of Lennon's ideas. Lately, Bono's getting into this universalism stuff, which I think is nonsense, but I think he's just desperate for world peace like everone else and so he's reaching for anything.
I don't mean to diminish Lennon's or Bono's work as songwriters, though. I just happen to have some disagreement over their world-views. And I think both have/are doing some positive things, I'm just making a reality check here. That's all. |
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| Posted on 2006-10-16 11:10:07 |
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i think your getting that wrong, bac. it's not a chain of effects, like if there were no possessions, there'd also be no hunger and when there's no hunger or greed we can have a brotherhood of man. i think it's more like everything's listened seperately, so there's a lot you'd have to imagine to make the world better. and thats why he calls himself a dreamer, because ideas of how to build a world without any possession dont pop up after five minutes of thinking, it's something that has to be well thought of..
and about heaven: you might not agree on this, because you as a christian believe in heaven and hell as a dual system - which is also implying that there is good and evil. but try ind imagine (lousy pun, too) there would be no need for heaven - that would be there would also be no need for hell. isnt it a much better idea to have all people in one place together where they can work out the faults, instead of labelling them as 'good' or 'bad' and based on that label separating them.
ah well, just <i>my</i> interpretation of the song ;-) |
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| Posted on 2006-11-03 17:47:35 |
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As Elton John embarassingly did the second version of Your Song dedicated to the Princess, I... imagine (!!) Imagine with some different lines, more or less something like...:
"Imagine there's no tv... No more media and banks...
a world of poor sad people, but with koalas happily on their trunks..."
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C'mon, let's admit it! We are (as human being) so intelligent, yeaaah... so we are also so stupid. That's the "problem". Like heaven-hell...
Can you imagine a little koala going to the church every day?
More ideas to share... |
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| Posted on 2006-11-19 06:43:46 |
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Bono is not getting into universalism, strange that you think Emm Gryner is the bomb, and dont criticize her stupid stupid hateful misguided views of Americans and the President and she doesn't do Jack for poor people around the world
but Bono who always preaches the gospel, and about grace from God and is actually pushing for helping the fatherless and the widow doesn't seem to catch a break from ya.
Other than that huge huge flaw in your thinking and views youre a good guy. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-27 05:41:00 |
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Bono is not getting into universalism, strange that you think Emm Gryner is the bomb, and dont criticize her stupid stupid hateful misguided views of Americans and the President and she doesn't do Jack for poor people around the world
but Bono who always preaches the gospel, and about grace from God and is actually pushing for helping the fatherless and the widow doesn't seem to catch a break from ya.
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Hey Phillip!
Well, the concert I went to recently had many indications of universalism. I'm basing that on some statements he made during/between songs. If I misunderstood, then ok! Great!
And I still like Bono and U2 even though I'm critical over some things they've said and done. And as I've said, I'm fine with Bono's efforts to help those in need. I just think some of his efforts are somewhat futile in the long run.
And I've never said I agree with Emm Gryner's politics. I don't agree with Nathan Larson's either and I've had some polite discussion with him about his views.
The point is that I can depoliticize when it comes to certain things.
Besides, we already talked about this didn't we? Bottom line is: If you're going to disconnect from any artist/entertainer that you have some social or political disagreement with, then you may as well not connect to anyone.
So, I'm critical of both of them on some level when it comes to their world views, but I can still like their music, can't I?
Later, man! |
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| Posted on 2006-11-27 05:42:46 |
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Annika:
I had written a response for you a couple weeks ago, but I lost the whole thing because the site logged me out and I couldn't get it back. :-( Sorry... maybe I'll write something again someday... |
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| Posted on 2006-11-27 15:02:24 |
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Oh Make that 2 flaws, you like Nathan Larson's extremely mediocre music too, despite his politics :-P haha
give you a buzz soon |
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| Posted on 2006-11-29 23:57:04 |
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Oh Make that 2 flaws, you like Nathan Larson's extremely mediocre music too, despite his politics :-P haha
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Oooo... ouch again, my friend! :-)
Haha... well, I'm not saying everything he does is on the genious level, but I think much of it is quite good. I think Jealous God is superb and among my favorites.
Yeah, his politics do leave something to be desired, but that seems to be the case with most of my favorite artists.
Hot One is especially strange for me because I find myself somewhat repulsed by the doctrine of the songs, but pleased by the music. Sort of a love/hate relationship there.
Talk later!
Dale
P.S. Glad to know I'm perfect in every other way, though! |
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