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| Posted on 2006-11-05 13:21:35 |
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| laaran |
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Saddam Hussein : death
So you are shouting when you hear that ?
We are only animals.
Now you understand why sheeps are shouting when you murder them in an horrible way for your muslim religious evil day. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 15:06:00 |
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| Valeria13 |
| Valeria Korneeva |
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Oh, you`re writing on your favourite theme (politics)...Listen, maybe you`re unhappy? Why do you guess that people are only animals? Dirty animals, yeah? Try to notice something good around you! Sun, snow, wind, stars... |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 17:30:54 |
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| laaran |
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Dirty animals, yeah?
Who said 'dirty animals' ?
Killing sheeps as they do in France once a year is bad, really bad.
That murder should have a meaning, a sacrifice, sacrifice your own belonging, and share the result of this sacrifice. And sacrifice an animal that you cared for during months.
In France, today, it has not this meaning. Buy a sheep is really cheap for a muslim family in France. To buy a sheep, that you don't know (know like you could know a person), that you never saw before, that you don't respect, and murder this sheep, yes, this is bad.
Try to notice something good around you!
Excuse me.
Concerning Saddam Hussein, this is a good news. The judges were courageous, they didn't wait during days and days to take the right decision. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 18:45:07 |
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death has nothing to offer to the world. death just makes people forget. and the most terrible thing is how US and UK have been so happy about the death ruling. thatīs an outrage. and it only makes it worse that the trial and the sentence was probably made by the coallison.
death only increases everything violent in Iraq. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 18:53:54 |
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| laaran |
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But which other sentence could they take ?
Death increases violence in Iraq ? Is it possible to increase violence there ? |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 18:56:56 |
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Life sentence in turkish prison? slavery? ok not slavery, but killing ainīt never right.
yes, there is no such thing as ultimate violence. there can always be more. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 19:15:10 |
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| laaran |
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No need of turkish prison.
Life sentence in French prison, same (horrible) conditions as the members of Action Directe.
Ideas (things worst than killing) are easy. But shall we search for the worst for him ? |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 19:34:24 |
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isnīt that what the rest of the world is doing? he was a horrible head of the state. he was at many wars, killed many people, he was a nepotist and totally corrupted, but still no one should be killed. even less by an organisation, like a state. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 19:56:50 |
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| laaran |
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even less by an organisation, like a state.
Actually the States (Iraq & US) are protecting him.
Without the Iraki State, he would have been tortured to Death 2 years ago.
Without the control of the American State, the US soldiers would have killed him.
isnīt that what the rest of the world is doing?
Search for the worst for him ?
I don't think so.
Country leaders (presidents or dictators) always have respect for each other.
The worst words about Stalin came from inside USSR, not from Europe or from the USA, even not from nazis.
Europe and USA and nazis were insulting/sending to jail (or camps) communists, but were insulting Stalin very little. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 20:22:30 |
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The worst words about Stalin came from inside USSR, not from Europe or from the USA, even not from nazis.
Europe and USA and nazis were insulting/sending to jail (or camps) communists, but were insulting Stalin very little. |
Yeah, Stalin was unbeliveable man! |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 20:27:51 |
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| Posthuman |
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| but killing ainīt never right. |
Right.
Murder is murder.You can justify itcall it whatever,but it's still the same.
Life sentence.No prison.Isolation.No any contact.No live soul near (just guards to give bread and water). |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 21:16:30 |
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| Valeria13 |
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As for me, I `m sure that bringing in a sentence should be objective. Of course, Saddam is a terrible person and he made history of Iraq very gloomy but...I think this case was too public! And by the way, the day after tomorrow in USA will be elections to the Congress! Is it simple coincidence?! And such fact: last year Saddam was grabbed by American soldiers at this time and there were elections (Bush and his opponents) again. I`m sure Saddam will go to law in the court of higher (second) instance and there will be tragic and epilogue. It will be farce. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 21:33:56 |
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| laaran |
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There are elections in the USA next week ?
Hum.
The judges refused to listen to the defense attorneys (who were asking for one more month !!).
Are there pressure from the US government ? Yes, maybe.
And such fact: last year Saddam was grabbed by American soldiers at this time and there were elections (Bush and his opponents) again
He was arrested on 13th december 2003. Which elections ? Are you sure about this point ?
Yes, this sentence can help the government of Bush.
But which other sentence did you want ? Sending him to jail forever could be better (not because he would suffer more, but because he has some diplomatic secrets, and he could decide to tell them in some years).
Jail in which country ? In Iraq that is impossible, people would try to free him. And that would increase the violence. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 21:49:56 |
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| Valeria13 |
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Yes, many analitics think that Saddam`s death will begin inner war in Iraq. And there will be terrible struggle between his devoted slaves and democratical opponents of this political regime.
Frankly speaking, I don`t want his murder. Besides that, he managed to keep self-control and
claimed the military execution instead of death by hanging. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 22:12:48 |
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| Kosinus |
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I'm glad to hear Saddam Hussein will be "hanging around".    |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 22:16:43 |
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| laaran |
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he managed to keep self-control
Sorry he didn't.
Shouting like he did is a proof of fear.
Of course, I would probably look more ridiculous in his situation.
But don't use lyric words about this situation.
Yes, many analitics think that Saddam`s death will begin inner war in Iraq. And there will be terrible struggle between his devoted slaves and democratical opponents of this political regime.
Then it has to be.
I imagine another scenario, not less violent, but better for the honor of Irakis.
I'm glad to hear Saddam Hussein will be "hanging around".
May I ask a stupid question. Why glad ?
Did some of your family/friends suffer there ?
Personnally, I feel it is necessary to kill/murder him, but 'glad'. No, not 'glad'. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 22:28:44 |
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| Posthuman |
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This is strange.
I hear you speak about which way to kill this man..hum..what is the best way to kill the man..? (!!!!)
What,do you have some satisfaction from it?Is it funny (or you are from those who'll call that a justice?) watch man (any man) die?
Killing,in any circumstance,shouldn't be allowed.
I can't believe that one,reasonable,sane man,can find that normal,and it's more unbealivable in this century..
We will call those who killed in the name of faith (religion) a savages,but now,that is a court (law)??!!! |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 23:11:43 |
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even less by an organisation, like a state.
Actually the States (Iraq & US) are protecting him.
Without the Iraki State, he would have been tortured to Death 2 years ago.
Without the control of the American State, the US soldiers would have killed him. |
thatīs not protection, thatīs human rights!
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isnīt that what the rest of the world is doing?
Search for the worst for him ?
I don't think so. |
I think so.itīs understandable and normal and in this case okay.. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 23:11:46 |
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| laaran |
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Killing,in any circumstance,shouldn't be allowed.
I can't believe that one,reasonable,sane man,can find that normal,and it's more unbealivable in this century..
What does the century change about this ? Don't compare this situation with all the wars (civil or not) from this century. There were very little trials.
We can say something from this century : Europeans, and all related to them, should be careful with weapons. With killing maybe. With weapons certainly.
hear you speak about which way to kill this man..hum..what is the best way to kill the man..? (!!!!)
Who is speaking about that ? |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 23:13:50 |
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| laaran |
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thatīs not protection, thatīs human rights!
You are playing with words.
Give him a book with the words "human rights", and see if he manages to convince someone with this book.
That is protection. He is more protected than 99% of the Iraki population.
I think so.
OK.
Which elements allow you to tell that ? You are accusing other people, so you have to give some elements. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 23:15:26 |
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Which elements allow you to tell that ? You are accusing other people, so you have to give some elements. |
of what am I accusing people? see the edited post above. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 23:17:32 |
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| laaran |
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of what am I accusing people?
You first post was this one
isnīt that what the rest of the world is doing?
(is doing = search for the worst for him)
The rest of the world is many humans of this planet. Or I don't understand your post.
You are not accusing these humans ? |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 23:19:22 |
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accusing is negative. I was being, or trying to be neutral. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-05 23:26:21 |
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| laaran |
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OK.
Then give names. Names of countries and of religious/political groups. And maybe of leaders.
Don't use anonymous descriptions. |
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| Posted on 2006-11-06 11:05:33 |
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| Valeria13 |
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I totally agree with Posthuman!!! Why should people become violent animals?! Why do they choose way for execution? For example, why do we decide method of murder and why do some of us (like Kosinus) feel themselves happy if this old sick and mad man (Saddam) will be hanging?
Laaran, when I wrote about Saddam`s self-control, I meant that he didn`t lose consciousness and more (!) he claimed another execution. He didn`t refuse from the execution at all, he just CLAIMED another method. Many people can`t be proud of their tenacity! |
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